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  New brochure about donations.

  by Ray Frankz in

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  2. experiences

  in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

  the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

  they did get bothered with that talk.

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  Stephane, it's so shameful that the GB does whatever it takes to supress the love the JW may show. Venezuela is falling apart, a lot of immigrants (JW included of course) are seeking refuge in Brazil, and it's clearly a great oportunity for showing christian love towards these people, so what the GB says?

  "Brothers, do NOT send money or food or clothes for anybody in the borders or any immigrant. If you want to help them, send your money to the Worldwide Work and we will direct it to our brothers in need."

  It's shameful!
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  New brochure about donations.

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

  the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

  they did get bothered with that talk.

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  Who wants to place bets on when they'll introduce tithing?

  With all the letters? I think never. But it's clearly that there was change in the policy of requesting money since three years ago, and it's increasing how often they do it. I think that's what's gonna happen, begging more and more AND still boasting that they are different from the other religions that (at least not hiding) do tithing.
  
  
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  New brochure about donations.

  by Ray Frankz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in this midweek meeting the local needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations.

  the wt must think the jws are dying to know how to give their money.. well, it's not new this is disgusting but this time, after i ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the faithful slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time i saw their faces.

  they did get bothered with that talk.

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  Ray Frankz

  In this midweek meeting the Local Needs was a booooring speech about the new brochure on donations. The WT must think the JWs are dying to know how to give their money.

  Well, it's not new this is disgusting but THIS time, after I ve been slightly hinting people here and there for a year about the 'abnormal request of money' and remind them that 'the Faithful Slave wasn't like that until some time ago', this time I saw their faces. They did get bothered with that talk. My mother who knows all my concerns told me that in the field service next day everyone were talking about the brochure and how they think it is unnecessary.

  Who needs apostates when you have a GB like this?
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  Heb. 1:2-3 Proof we should worship Jesus?

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jw.org believes that jesus is not god but a separate entity.

  let's go with that for the time being.

  in the referenced scriptures the writer of hebrews says that jesus "sustains all things by the word of his power" and has been "appointed heir of all things".

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  The problem with the Trinity concept is that is just like any other WT madeup belief( like earth paradise, or 144.000)

  Is there scriptures that indicates this? Yes.

  Does the general context indicate this? No.

  Would it be nice if it did? Yes.
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  Pre 2000 magazines now on JW Org- have there been alterations to the originals?

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wanted to ask if anyone has found any glaring changes to the pre- 2000 wt or awake articles that have been put online compared to the original issues?.

  cheers.

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  I was reading the question from readers section... man at least it was really questions from readers. Today is "questions completely unimportant that happens to be the only one that the GB is ok showing they are not sure"
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  BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

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  So if you have conservative hounders on the body you will probably not experience any upward mobility in privileges .

  The problem is that if they are not conservative they don't get to become a "hounder".
  
  
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  BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

  by Atlantis in

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  2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

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  Atlantis, that's it. It's 95% the same letter.

  In other words, don't bother asking anything to the GB or local branch, they will send you the same letter that you can find in the nearest apostate website.

  Neat Blue Dog

  Just to highlihgt, they aren't actually the same letter. The one on this thread is from 2018 and this one is from 2017. The point is that they don't actually write letters to answer the JW, it's more like an authomatic response like we can find in and FAQ section of many websites.
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  BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.

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  Ray Frankz

  Ok, that's an interesting letter.

  Now, take a look at the letter this brother I follow on Instagram recieved.

  I've talked to him, I'd say he's a PIMI.

  
  
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  Governing Body vs Local Elder Body

  by Boredposter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  shortly before my exit a youngish elder who recently came from brooklyn bethel commented to me how the local elder meetings were like the wild wild west.

  according to him in brooklyn there was a very definite way to handle things.

  he seemed to imply the brooklyn bethel way was better.. after seeing gb member splaines video about how elders could come to an united decision i was reminded of this.. i had to wonder about this then and i wonder now.

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  I think the main difference is that when the local elders take a decision that affects negatively one's life is mostly beacuse they are indoctrinated to believe they have God's spirit. When the GB does the same is because they want to mantain power.

  We all know there are a few number of "awaken" elders and some people at the world headquarters too. My question is: Do you tink is there anyone out there in the congregations or branches that is Awake but continues to 'make progress' in order to accumulate power? A kind of JW Frank Underwood? (I'm not considering the GB members in this questions)
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  You Might Be in a Cult if...

  by awake!watcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ... you are told to trust the slave as you do jehovah and jesus..

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  You are told to give up on your own rights for the wishes of the leadership